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James Langan
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Plants and Salt
Mar 10th, 2022 at 6:45pm
 
Hello Everyone,

Does anyone know conclusively through experience a safe dosing of salt per gallon that doesn't negatively affect high order aquarium plants?

Please post,  best wishes!

Jim Langan, AKA Webmaster
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Re: Plants and Salt
Reply #1 - Mar 11th, 2022 at 2:08pm
 
Hello,

I think this is different for different types of plants.

I can say with some confidence that Jack Heller's cultivar of Hornwort (which doesn't drop its leaves and make a mess in the tank) can tolerate up to SG 1.004 (~5g/L).

I am told that some cultivars of Java Moss can tolerate 1.005 SG (6 g/L).

I have been keeping Pseudomugil cyanodorsali at 5g/L with hornwort and java moss with no issues. Sadly, even teh duckweek seems to survive.
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Reply #2 - May 3rd, 2022 at 11:47pm
 
I keep anacharis and java moss in my tanks set up for pupfish.  I'm not exactly sure of the salinity but I do add approx. 1/2 tsp per gallon and calcium carbonate and soda ash so it's very hard and the pH is around 8.2.  Doesn't seem to bother these plants, the snails are healthy and the fish love it.  Hope this helps.
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Reply #3 - May 5th, 2022 at 12:56pm
 
Russel,

Helps immensely thank You!
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Reply #4 - May 12th, 2022 at 5:11pm
 
I asked in another post about my lack of success with Ceratopteris thalictroides Water Sprite and people thought my use of salt killed it. I have Vesicularia dubyana Java Moss and Microsorium pteropus Java Fern that is thriving with my dose of added salt. 4 teaspoons per 10 gallons. Something unusual about my Java Fern is that it is not rooted or attached to anything. It grows free floating.
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Reply #5 - Jul 7th, 2022 at 6:48am
 
Duckweed is salt tolerant. It can survive brackish conditions.
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Reply #6 - Jul 2nd, 2023 at 7:53am
 
ROBERT DEKEULENAERE wrote on Jul 7th, 2022 at 6:48am:
Duckweed is salt tolerant. It can survive brackish conditions.
I believe duckweed will survive a thermonuclear explosion
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Reply #7 - Jul 3rd, 2023 at 12:22pm
 
Pat Kapsner wrote on Jul 2nd, 2023 at 7:53am:
ROBERT DEKEULENAERE wrote on Jul 7th, 2022 at 6:48am:
Duckweed is salt tolerant. It can survive brackish conditions.
I believe duckweed will survive a thermonuclear explosion

Yes, duckweed, cockroaches and scorpions. And entire little ecosystem of horror will survive WWIII.
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Reply #8 - Jul 8th, 2023 at 10:37am
 
Ruppia sp. (widgeonweed) can survive and thrive in high salt conditions, up to full strength seawater.
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Reply #9 - Dec 8th, 2023 at 9:34pm
 
I'm going to update this.  I've been working on breeding Aphanius dispar lately and only found them to be productive when I got the salinity to around 17 ppm (approx. half of ocean salinity).  My java moss doesn't seem to mind this salinity at all.  I can't say the same for snails though.

Russell Feilzer wrote on May 3rd, 2022 at 11:47pm:
I keep anacharis and java moss in my tanks set up for pupfish.  I'm not exactly sure of the salinity but I do add approx. 1/2 tsp per gallon and calcium carbonate and soda ash so it's very hard and the pH is around 8.2.  Doesn't seem to bother these plants, the snails are healthy and the fish love it.  Hope this helps.

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Reply #10 - Dec 27th, 2023 at 2:16pm
 
I keep a species of blue-eyes (P. ivantosoffi) for years which does well at 1/2 seawater and I found that java moss would last for months, but would eventually die. Even then, it would just slowly go yellow and still provide the cover functions without any significant pollution.

But I have found that Susswasertang (Lomariopsis) stays green indefinitely, though it doesn't seem to grow. I prefer the tang in general over moss for a number of reasons even in my usual, soft water tanks.
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Reply #11 - Dec 29th, 2023 at 9:15pm
 
I'm interested in trying Susswasertang, where did you find this plant?
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Reply #12 - Jan 10th, 2024 at 1:24pm
 
I got mine through my local aquarium club, the Minnesota Aquarium Society.

It should ship easily and I would be happy to send you some, but it's the wrong time of year for me to do that. Hit me up in the Spring if you haven't found some.
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Reply #13 - May 28th, 2024 at 4:59pm
 
As a follow up on this, I purchased some Susswasertang on Aquabid and put it in my brackish tanks and it did not work out.  It took a bit of time but it all dissolved.  I think I'll try some true macro algae in the tanks and see if that works.
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