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James Langan YaBB Administrator BOT Member Offline Posts: 221 Afton, Minnesota	Plants and Salt Mar 10^th, 2022 at 6:45pm Hello Everyone, Does anyone know conclusively through experience a safe dosing of salt per gallon that doesn't negatively affect high order aquarium plants? Please post, best wishes! Jim Langan, AKA Webmaster
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Tyrone Genade

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Re: Plants and Salt
Reply #1 - Mar 11^th, 2022 at 2:08pm

Hello,

I think this is different for different types of plants.

I can say with some confidence that Jack Heller's cultivar of Hornwort (which doesn't drop its leaves and make a mess in the tank) can tolerate up to SG 1.004 (~5g/L).

I am told that some cultivars of Java Moss can tolerate 1.005 SG (6 g/L).

I have been keeping Pseudomugil cyanodorsali at 5g/L with hornwort and java moss with no issues. Sadly, even teh duckweek seems to survive.

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Russell Feilzer Senior Member Offline Posts: 48	Re: Plants and Salt Reply #2 - May 3^rd, 2022 at 11:47pm I keep anacharis and java moss in my tanks set up for pupfish. I'm not exactly sure of the salinity but I do add approx. 1/2 tsp per gallon and calcium carbonate and soda ash so it's very hard and the pH is around 8.2. Doesn't seem to bother these plants, the snails are healthy and the fish love it. Hope this helps.
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James Langan YaBB Administrator BOT Member Offline Posts: 221 Afton, Minnesota	Re: Plants and Salt Reply #3 - May 5^th, 2022 at 12:56pm Russel, Helps immensely thank You!
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Medric J. Magann

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Reply #4 - May 12^th, 2022 at 5:11pm

I asked in another post about my lack of success with Ceratopteris thalictroides Water Sprite and people thought my use of salt killed it. I have Vesicularia dubyana Java Moss and Microsorium pteropus Java Fern that is thriving with my dose of added salt. 4 teaspoons per 10 gallons. Something unusual about my Java Fern is that it is not rooted or attached to anything. It grows free floating.

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ROBERT DEKEULENAERE Senior Member BOT Member Offline Posts: 30	Re: Plants and Salt Reply #5 - Jul 7^th, 2022 at 6:48am Duckweed is salt tolerant. It can survive brackish conditions.
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Pat Kapsner Full Member Offline Posts: 13	Re: Plants and Salt Reply #6 - Jul 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53am ROBERT DEKEULENAERE wrote on Jul 7^th, 2022 at 6:48am: Duckweed is salt tolerant. It can survive brackish conditions. I believe duckweed will survive a thermonuclear explosion
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Tyrone Genade YaBB Administrator Offline Posts: 191 TN	Re: Plants and Salt Reply #7 - Jul 3^rd, 2023 at 12:22pm Pat Kapsner wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2023 at 7:53am: ROBERT DEKEULENAERE wrote on Jul 7^th, 2022 at 6:48am: Duckweed is salt tolerant. It can survive brackish conditions. I believe duckweed will survive a thermonuclear explosion Yes, duckweed, cockroaches and scorpions. And entire little ecosystem of horror will survive WWIII.
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Kris Haggblom BOT_Viewonly Offline Posts: 25	Re: Plants and Salt Reply #8 - Jul 8^th, 2023 at 10:37am Ruppia sp. (widgeonweed) can survive and thrive in high salt conditions, up to full strength seawater.
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Russell Feilzer

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Reply #9 - Dec 8^th, 2023 at 9:34pm

I'm going to update this. I've been working on breeding Aphanius dispar lately and only found them to be productive when I got the salinity to around 17 ppm (approx. half of ocean salinity). My java moss doesn't seem to mind this salinity at all. I can't say the same for snails though.

Russell Feilzer wrote on May 3^rd, 2022 at 11:47pm:

I keep anacharis and java moss in my tanks set up for pupfish. I'm not exactly sure of the salinity but I do add approx. 1/2 tsp per gallon and calcium carbonate and soda ash so it's very hard and the pH is around 8.2. Doesn't seem to bother these plants, the snails are healthy and the fish love it. Hope this helps.

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Reply #10 - Dec 27^th, 2023 at 2:16pm

I keep a species of blue-eyes (P. ivantosoffi) for years which does well at 1/2 seawater and I found that java moss would last for months, but would eventually die. Even then, it would just slowly go yellow and still provide the cover functions without any significant pollution.

But I have found that Susswasertang (Lomariopsis) stays green indefinitely, though it doesn't seem to grow. I prefer the tang in general over moss for a number of reasons even in my usual, soft water tanks.

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Russell Feilzer Senior Member Offline Posts: 48	Re: Plants and Salt Reply #11 - Dec 29^th, 2023 at 9:15pm I'm interested in trying Susswasertang, where did you find this plant?
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Andy Jameson YaBB Administrator Offline Posts: 32	Re: Plants and Salt Reply #12 - Jan 10^th, 2024 at 1:24pm I got mine through my local aquarium club, the Minnesota Aquarium Society. It should ship easily and I would be happy to send you some, but it's the wrong time of year for me to do that. Hit me up in the Spring if you haven't found some.
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Russell Feilzer Senior Member Offline Posts: 48	Re: Plants and Salt Reply #13 - May 28^th, 2024 at 4:59pm As a follow up on this, I purchased some Susswasertang on Aquabid and put it in my brackish tanks and it did not work out. It took a bit of time but it all dissolved. I think I'll try some true macro algae in the tanks and see if that works.
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