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Message started by Aaron Smalls on Sep 22nd, 2021 at 11:04am

Title: Questions/Discussion About Importing Fish and Eggs
Post by Aaron Smalls on Sep 22nd, 2021 at 11:04am
This post is not meant to be a discussion on skirting or breaking federal, state, or international laws.

I've started collecting a couple species but I'm really getting into Nothos more and more. It seems like there just isn't the variety in the states as what I see in European other other international groups. I understand that in order to legally obtain eggs from overseas you must have an import/export license, and declare with USFWS.  As a somewhat newer person to national fish clubs I'm surprised the stance taken by most groups regarding obtaining fish is "know the laws that apply to you and your state and proceed accordingly." I don't quite understand this stance.  While I understand it may reduce legal obligation to the national organization I think it promotes hobbyists flouting regulations at the same time.  Obviously none of us want to open the AKA to any legal problems.

So what can be done?  It seems obvious to me that the club, or some committee should obtain the necessary permits and licensing to properly import fish and eggs from international sources, and import them for its members.  Whether it's actually that simple may just be a naive assumption. 

I'm sure I'm not the first person to suggest this, but I'm really interested in why this isn't already a thing. Has it been explored and just didn't work? Not enough support from the membership? Too costly? For what it's worth, I'd be interested in working on something that might make species more available to U.S. Hobbyists.



Thanks for your time.

Title: Re: Questions/Discussion About Importing Fish and Eggs
Post by Keith Cook on Oct 14th, 2021 at 7:18pm
Hi Aaron,

Some of our members are familiar with the procedures for making large importations, but are less familiar with how to proceed with small parcels. A couple of suggestions that have been brought up are making a bunch of small parcels into a large import by coordinating a shipment with a large-ish number of members. Another possibility is to use someone who acts as a trans-shipper. Other groups, I'm thinking bettas here, use them. I don't personally know how that works. I wonder if we could use existing trans-shippers or if we should get a few members around the country to serve as trans-shippers. My current limited understanding of the process leads me to believe that this is the way to go, and I would certainly appreciate any input you could provide on the issue. 

Keith

Title: Re: Questions/Discussion About Importing Fish and Eggs
Post by Keith Cook on Oct 14th, 2021 at 7:19pm
Feel free to email me directly.

Keith

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